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(Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Zhou Wu-2
   I had been using the VC++ 6.0 for compiling
quantlib successfully for the code checked out before
last week. But I now got this famous error for the
latest code.
 
   c:\finance\quantlib\ql\null.hpp(64) : fatal error
C1001: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR
        (compiler file 'msc1.cpp', line 1786)
         Please choose the Technical Support command
on the Visual C++

   I tried every trick I could find on the web and
reinstall the VC++ with vain. One tip suggested to
remove the /Fo (with others), but I don't know how to
to turn off this option in VC++. Anyone can help?



               
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RE: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

cuchulainn
[Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:
In my experience the fatal error is caused by a coding error. I used to get it mainly with template classes (when I used too many >>>>> )
 
Try compiling class by class (incremental) instead of one big BUILD.
 
Installing VS again will not help!
 
cheers
 
Daniel J. Duffy


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Subject: [Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:


   I had been using the VC++ 6.0 for compiling
quantlib successfully for the code checked out before
last week. But I now got this famous error for the
latest code.

   c:\finance\quantlib\ql\null.hpp(64) : fatal error
C1001: INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR
        (compiler file 'msc1.cpp', line 1786)
         Please choose the Technical Support command
on the Visual C++

   I tried every trick I could find on the web and
reinstall the VC++ with vain. One tip suggested to
remove the /Fo (with others), but I don't know how to
to turn off this option in VC++. Anyone can help?



               
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Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Luigi Ballabio-2
Hi,

On 2004.08.18 19:13, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> In my experience the fatal error is caused by a coding error. I used
> to get it mainly with template classes (when I used too many >>>>> )

no, I'd rule out an error (as in "syntax error") since the current  
repository compiles cleanly with gcc. It might be some legal but  
complex construct that VC can't digest for some reason. It'll need some  
investigation.

As an aside: it's not the safest thing to rely on the latest cvs  
snapshot for production work. Even I don't do that :)  You might want  
to stick with a release, or a copy of a stable snapshot. If you're just  
playing instead, of course it's all right...

Later,
        Luigi


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RE: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

cuchulainn
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Luigi,
Are there templates in this code? I know for a fact that VC++ 6.0 does not support all features.

In general, some constructions confuse the compiler. I always try not to annoy the compiling with clever code (this is because I try to do it as simple and understandable as possible).

Ciao,

Daniel

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luigi Ballabio [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 19 August 2004 10:18
> To: Daniel J. Duffy
> Cc: Zhou Wu; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error
> C1001:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On 2004.08.18 19:13, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> > In my experience the fatal error is caused by a coding error. I used
> > to get it mainly with template classes (when I used too many >>>>> )
>
> no, I'd rule out an error (as in "syntax error") since the current  
> repository compiles cleanly with gcc. It might be some legal but  
> complex construct that VC can't digest for some reason. It'll
> need some  
> investigation.
>
> As an aside: it's not the safest thing to rely on the latest cvs  
> snapshot for production work. Even I don't do that :)  You
> might want  
> to stick with a release, or a copy of a stable snapshot. If
> you're just  
> playing instead, of course it's all right...
>
> Later,
> Luigi
>


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Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Luigi Ballabio-2
On 2004.08.19 13:37, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> Are there templates in this code? I know for a fact that VC++ 6.0  
> does not support all features.

True, that might be the case. I take back my previous statement.
But the strange thing is, I don't recall particular changes in template
code since I last compiled it... Sigh. I guess we'll have to 'cvs
update -D' at different dates and see what broke the build. Lovely :(

Later,
        Luigi


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Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Luigi Ballabio-2
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On 2004.08.19 13:37, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> Are there templates in this code? I know for a fact that VC++ 6.0  
> does not support all features.

Ok, it seems to be fixed now. It was indeed a template function,  
although not a particularly clever one :)  Luckily, it did next to  
nothing (it formatted sequences of numbers for output) so I just  
#ifndefined it away under VC++. Were anyone interested in tweaking it  
so as to make it work, it is SequenceFormatter::toString(...) and can  
be found inside ql/basicdataformatters.hpp.

Later,
        Luigi


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RE: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

cuchulainn
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Hi Luigi,
Many a night at about 23.30 just before going to bed is the worst to get such an eror. It really destroys one's beauty sleep :-)

glad it's solved

Ciao

Daniel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Luigi
> Ballabio
> Sent: 19 August 2004 17:08
> To: Zhou Wu
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error
> C1001:
>
>
> On 2004.08.19 13:37, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> > Are there templates in this code? I know for a fact that VC++ 6.0  
> > does not support all features.
>
> Ok, it seems to be fixed now. It was indeed a template function,  
> although not a particularly clever one :)  Luckily, it did next to  
> nothing (it formatted sequences of numbers for output) so I just  
> #ifndefined it away under VC++. Were anyone interested in
> tweaking it  
> so as to make it work, it is SequenceFormatter::toString(...)
> and can  
> be found inside ql/basicdataformatters.hpp.
>
> Later,
> Luigi
>
>
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RE: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

cuchulainn
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Luigi,
The learning curve with templates is steep, especially if you have to create them yourself.

At the risk of a sales pitch, the C++ templates in my book are for public domain use (if you keep the name of Datasim in there).

Daniel J. Duffy

http://www.datasim-component.com/financial.asp?section=books
http://www.datasim-component.com/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Luigi
> Ballabio
> Sent: 19 August 2004 17:08
> To: Zhou Wu
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error
> C1001:
>
>
> On 2004.08.19 13:37, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> > Are there templates in this code? I know for a fact that VC++ 6.0  
> > does not support all features.
>
> Ok, it seems to be fixed now. It was indeed a template function,  
> although not a particularly clever one :)  Luckily, it did next to  
> nothing (it formatted sequences of numbers for output) so I just  
> #ifndefined it away under VC++. Were anyone interested in
> tweaking it  
> so as to make it work, it is SequenceFormatter::toString(...)
> and can  
> be found inside ql/basicdataformatters.hpp.
>
> Later,
> Luigi
>
>
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Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Luigi Ballabio-2
On 2004.08.19 17:44, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> The learning curve with templates is steep

Yes--especially for sub-standard compilers :)

> At the risk of a sales pitch, the C++ templates in my book are for
> public domain use (if you keep the name of Datasim in there).

Thank you--we'll sure have a look at them. As for copyright issues and  
such, I second Nando's suggestion: there should be more than just the  
name of Datasim in there.

Later,
        Luigi


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RE: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

cuchulainn
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Luigi,
I have a comment on your what somewhat emotive comment "sub-standard compilers". There are two kinds of compilers, those that do and those that do not support the ANSI/ISO C++ standard. Older versions of VC++ did not support all features but VS 2003 does.
Personally, my opinion is that all mistakes are made by the programmers. When I get a compiler error, I look at what I have done wrong. I use the KISS principle always (keep it simple ...)

With templates one has to learn how to crawl before we do the 200 breast stoke in Athens.

Daniel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luigi Ballabio [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 20 August 2004 12:24
> To: Daniel J. Duffy
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Quantlib-users] (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error
> C1001:
>
>
> On 2004.08.19 17:44, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> > The learning curve with templates is steep
>
> Yes--especially for sub-standard compilers :)
>
> > At the risk of a sales pitch, the C++ templates in my book are for
> > public domain use (if you keep the name of Datasim in there).
>
> Thank you--we'll sure have a look at them. As for copyright
> issues and  
> such, I second Nando's suggestion: there should be more than
> just the  
> name of Datasim in there.
>
> Later,
> Luigi
>


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Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:

Luigi Ballabio-2
On 2004.08.20 13:04, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> I have a comment on your what somewhat emotive comment "sub-standard
> compilers".

Daniel,
        I should have expressed myself better. It wasn't my intention  
to do Microsoft bashing, or to imply incompetence on the part of VC++  
implementors. As you write,

> There are two kinds of compilers, those that do and those
> that do not support the ANSI/ISO C++ standard. Older versions of VC++
> did not support all features but VS 2003 does.

According to the above, I called VC6 (not later VC versions, which  
happily compiled the code) "sub-standard" as in "one that doesn't  
support the C++ standard completely."  There was no particular  
emotivity in it, except for my somewhat deplorable penchant for jokes.

In fact, I'm having some trouble in writing this mail. I don't want it  
to look like I'm defending any point (believe me, I'm not) but it's  
kind of difficult to do it when one doesn't personally know the person  
one's writing to. It's likely that we would have settled this in 30  
seconds and with mutual satisfaction if we had been talking in front of  
a couple of beers...

> Personally, my opinion is that all mistakes are made by the
> programmers. When I get a compiler error, I look at what I have done
> wrong.  I use the KISS principle always (keep it simple ...)

Absolutely.  In this case, what I have done wrong is using standard C++  
instead of the C++ subset digestible by all major compilers.
I take it as a fact (albeit an unfortunate one, but that's life) that  
the latter is the language to use. I would have done it, but in this  
particular case, I misjudged its extent--due to the fact that the  
function was IMHO a simple one.

> With templates one has to learn how to crawl before we do the 200
> breast stoke in Athens.

Ouch. This is _extremely_ difficult to answer without making it look  
like one is bragging... honestly, in this case it seems to me that the  
point was not much one's ability in swimming but the more basic fact  
that one should check that the water is deep enough before diving--
which I admit I didn't.
But I'll stop here...

Cheers,
        Luigi


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Great news: It builds for me (was Re: (Off topic) VC++ 6.0 with fatal error C1001:)

Zhou Wu-2
Hi guys,

    I think the discussion must have helped since I
could build with latest check out. I had been being
frustrated for days for the problem. This is really
great.

  Before I saw Daniel's postings here, I ordered
Daniel's book but I have not received it. People said
it was an excellent book. I hope so.

  Cheers,

   Zhou



--- Luigi Ballabio <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>
> On 2004.08.20 13:04, Daniel J. Duffy wrote:
> > I have a comment on your what somewhat emotive
> comment "sub-standard
> > compilers".
>
> Daniel,
> I should have expressed myself better. It wasn't my
> intention  
> to do Microsoft bashing, or to imply incompetence on
> the part of VC++  
> implementors. As you write,
>
> > There are two kinds of compilers, those that do
> and those
> > that do not support the ANSI/ISO C++ standard.
> Older versions of VC++
> > did not support all features but VS 2003 does.
>
> According to the above, I called VC6 (not later VC
> versions, which  
> happily compiled the code) "sub-standard" as in "one
> that doesn't  
> support the C++ standard completely."  There was no
> particular  
> emotivity in it, except for my somewhat deplorable
> penchant for jokes.
>
> In fact, I'm having some trouble in writing this
> mail. I don't want it  
> to look like I'm defending any point (believe me,
> I'm not) but it's  
> kind of difficult to do it when one doesn't
> personally know the person  
> one's writing to. It's likely that we would have
> settled this in 30  
> seconds and with mutual satisfaction if we had been
> talking in front of  
> a couple of beers...
>
> > Personally, my opinion is that all mistakes are
> made by the
> > programmers. When I get a compiler error, I look
> at what I have done
> > wrong.  I use the KISS principle always (keep it
> simple ...)
>
> Absolutely.  In this case, what I have done wrong is
> using standard C++  
> instead of the C++ subset digestible by all major
> compilers.
> I take it as a fact (albeit an unfortunate one, but
> that's life) that  
> the latter is the language to use. I would have done
> it, but in this  
> particular case, I misjudged its extent--due to the
> fact that the  
> function was IMHO a simple one.
>
> > With templates one has to learn how to crawl
> before we do the 200
> > breast stoke in Athens.
>
> Ouch. This is _extremely_ difficult to answer
> without making it look  
> like one is bragging... honestly, in this case it
> seems to me that the  
> point was not much one's ability in swimming but the
> more basic fact  
> that one should check that the water is deep enough
> before diving--
> which I admit I didn't.
> But I'll stop here...
>
> Cheers,
> Luigi
>
>
>
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