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negative discount factors don't make sense...
> Many thanks Cheng, I would take a look at the optimization class and try it.
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> regards
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> Alex
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> 2014-05-28 11:45 GMT+08:00 cheng.li <
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>> Hi Yuanhao
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>> Maybe it is a little bit complicated than root finding…
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>> However if you are familiar with it, it won’t be too hard to start.
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>> Anyway I can’t come up any other idea which is suitable for your
>> requirement.
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>> Regards,
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>> Cheng
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>> 发件人: Yuanhao Zhang [mailto:
[hidden email]]
>> 发送时间: 2014年5月28日 11:14
>> 收件人: cheng.li
>> 抄送: QuantLib QuantLib
>> 主题: Re: 答复: [Quantlib-users] negative discount rate
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>> I want to make it easy to implement. I try to make the curve shift from
>> the point after 3 month tenor to make it hard to get the negative discount
>> rate.
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>> Use optimization maybe too complicated, and cost too much time on the
>> optimization, if I have thousands of bond.
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>> regards
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>>
>>
>> Alex
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>> 2014-05-28 10:47 GMT+08:00 cheng.li <
[hidden email]>:
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>> Hi Yuanhao,
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>> As you are actually finding a root within some interval (e.g. (0.0, inf)),
>> you can’t expect to find a “root” for sure. What you can do is to minimize
>> the error within this interval.
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>> In such case I suggest you to use optimizer instead of root finder.
>> QuantLib has a built-in framework for optimizer with constraint. E.g. you
>> can use BFGS optimizer with boundary constraint like (0.0, inf).
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>> Under such setting, when optimizer hit the boundary it will stay there or
>> try to find a better solution instead of throwing an error.
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Cheng
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>> 发件人: Yuanhao Zhang [mailto:
[hidden email]]
>> 发送时间: 2014年5月28日 10:19
>> 收件人: QuantLib QuantLib
>> 主题: [Quantlib-users] negative discount rate
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>> Hi,
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>> I try to use the solver function like Bisection or Newton method to find
>> the root of the curve parallel shift to make sure the valuation result is
>> very close to the market quotation.
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>> But, when I set the minimum boundary to -0.1, QuantLib throw out the
>> exception the discount rate can not be the negative one. I know Quantlib
>> allow user to set the discount rate to be negative one, But, I just want the
>> RootFunction to find the result to the lowest one, but never to be negative
>> one.
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>> How can I achieve it?
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>> Many thanks
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>> regards
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>> Alex
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