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It seems that there are quite a few valient people who have made a good effort to write some Quantlib documentation.
However I suspect if there is more collaboration, then the results will be much better: With that in mind, I'd suggest that the quantlib wiki is brought back to life. Currently on the quantlib.org home page the link to the unofficial wiki is broken As I'm sure some of you know, the nice people in mediawiki, who wrote the software for wikipedia have released their software for building wikis for free. Here are some links to unofficial quantlib documentation: http://sites.google.com/site/tgwena/ http://quantlibformortals.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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I'd appreciate if someone enthusiastic could start that. And tell people
how to contribute. I got lots of stuff to share P Nelnik schrieb: > It seems that there are quite a few valient people who have made a > good effort to write some Quantlib documentation. > However I suspect if there is more collaboration, then the results > will be much better: > With that in mind, I'd suggest that the *quantlib wiki *is brought > back to life. > Currently on the quantlib.org <http://quantlib.org> home page the link > to the /unofficial wiki/ is broken > > As I'm sure some of you know, the nice people in mediawiki, who wrote > the software for wikipedia have released their software for building > wikis for free. > > Here are some links to unofficial quantlib documentation: > http://sites.google.com/site/tgwena/ > http://quantlibformortals.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > QuantLib-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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The quantlib for mortals blog sounds like an excellent idea but I could only see 2 entries from 2008. Simon Courtenage
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I'm happy to get the ball, rolling.
There is now a tiny quantlib wiki: http://quantlib.referata.com/ Please do feel free to contribute. To add a new page to the wiki, 0: Go to: http://quantlib.referata.com/ 1: Type the name of the page in the search box, (low down on in the panel on the left.) 2: Click Go. 3: Click on the red link create this page Cheers Philip On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Dima <[hidden email]> wrote: I'd appreciate if someone enthusiastic could start that. And tell people how to contribute. I got lots of stuff to share ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Great idea.
I'll appreciate if there will be also the wiki about quantlibxl (very interesting tool but not "so" easy to use). Ciao Paolo 2010/5/18 P Nelnik <[hidden email]> I'm happy to get the ball, rolling. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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How about just having the quantlibXL wiki as a sub-section of the main quantlib wiki ( http://quantlib.referata.com/ )?
Also I presume that in future the web-host may well be moved from referata, perhaps onto the same host as the rest of the quantlib.org web-site. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Paolo Baroni <[hidden email]> wrote: Great idea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Luigi, can we move the Wiki to the quantlib site? Then we can start to fill it
2010/5/18 P Nelnik <[hidden email]> How about just having the quantlibXL wiki as a sub-section of the main quantlib wiki ( http://quantlib.referata.com/ )? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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One of the advantages of staying on referata is that they will maintain the mediawiki software behind it. So as new software comes out, the wiki will be updated. One concern that was raised was that we would need some assurance that if referata goes out of business then we could loose all our data. To counter that, we could just set-up a periodic data-dump of the entire contents of the quantlib wiki. If anyone on this email list would like administrator permissions on http://quantlib.referata.com/ please let me know. Even if we stay with referata as a host, we could have 'referata' removed from the URL. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Dima <[hidden email]> wrote: Luigi, can we move the Wiki to the quantlib site? Then we can start to fill it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 17:22 +0200, Dima wrote:
> Luigi, can we move the Wiki to the quantlib site? Then we can start to > fill it As for the site proper (quantlib.org), we're limited to what Sourceforge offers. We could point wiki.quantlib.org to referata, but I'd wait for it to have some content first (a chicken and egg problem, I know. But I've seen a few efforts like this, including the old wiki, die a quick death---nobody's fault, mind you, we all have real jobs---so I've grown a bit wary.) Luigi -- Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Luigi,
Right now, on the quantlib.org home page there is a link to an 'Unofficial Wiki'. But the link is broken which doesn't look very impressive. Setting the link to point to quantlib.referata.org would be an improvement. It would take very little effort to fix think link. For visitors to the quantlib home-page it would make the user experience better. And it would also help encourage the growth of the wiki. If at a future date we deem the wiki to be sufficiently large and indeed well maintained we can move it to the quantlib site. So there is very little to loose and lots to gain by making the easy change, of fixing a existing link. Cheers Philip On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Luigi Ballabio <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:45 +0800, P Nelnik wrote:
> Right now, on the quantlib.org home page there is a link to an > 'Unofficial Wiki'. > But the link is broken which doesn't look very impressive. > Setting the link to point to quantlib.referata.org would be an > improvement. > It would take very little effort to fix think link. > For visitors to the quantlib home-page it would make the user > experience better. > And it would also help encourage the growth of the wiki. Ok, but I would move the link from the sidebar from the docs page where it belongs (that is, <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml>.) What do you think? Luigi -- This gubblick contains many nonsklarkish English flutzpahs, but the overall pluggandisp can be glorked from context. -- David Moser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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I don't understand. What do you mean?
2010/5/28, Luigi Ballabio <[hidden email]>: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:45 +0800, P Nelnik wrote: >> Right now, on the quantlib.org home page there is a link to an >> 'Unofficial Wiki'. >> But the link is broken which doesn't look very impressive. >> Setting the link to point to quantlib.referata.org would be an >> improvement. >> It would take very little effort to fix think link. >> For visitors to the quantlib home-page it would make the user >> experience better. >> And it would also help encourage the growth of the wiki. > > Ok, but I would move the link from the sidebar from the docs page where > it belongs (that is, <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml>.) > What do you think? > > Luigi > > > -- > > This gubblick contains many nonsklarkish English flutzpahs, but the > overall pluggandisp can be glorked from context. > -- David Moser > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 12:26 +0200, Dima wrote:
> I don't understand. What do you mean? I mean I would put the link in the <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml> page, along with the other links to various documentation. I would remove it from the sidebar on the right-hand side of the page (the links under "User pages".) Luigi > 2010/5/28, Luigi Ballabio <[hidden email]>: > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:45 +0800, P Nelnik wrote: > >> Right now, on the quantlib.org home page there is a link to an > >> 'Unofficial Wiki'. > >> But the link is broken which doesn't look very impressive. > >> Setting the link to point to quantlib.referata.org would be an > >> improvement. > >> It would take very little effort to fix think link. > >> For visitors to the quantlib home-page it would make the user > >> experience better. > >> And it would also help encourage the growth of the wiki. > > > > Ok, but I would move the link from the sidebar from the docs page where > > it belongs (that is, <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml>.) > > What do you think? > > > > Luigi > > > > > > -- > > > > This gubblick contains many nonsklarkish English flutzpahs, but the > > overall pluggandisp can be glorked from context. > > -- David Moser > > > > > > -- It is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar. -- Jerome K. Jerome ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Is it because you don't want to link it until it has enough content? If
yes, then this is ok with me. But we should change that after feeding the wiki with yummy stuff. I'll have some spare time left in the next months and try to work a bit. Including all the other outstanding tasks I've promised to do Luigi Ballabio schrieb: > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 12:26 +0200, Dima wrote: > >> I don't understand. What do you mean? >> > > I mean I would put the link in the <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml> > page, along with the other links to various documentation. > I would remove it from the sidebar on the right-hand side of the page > (the links under "User pages".) > > Luigi > > > > >> 2010/5/28, Luigi Ballabio <[hidden email]>: >> >>> On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:45 +0800, P Nelnik wrote: >>> >>>> Right now, on the quantlib.org home page there is a link to an >>>> 'Unofficial Wiki'. >>>> But the link is broken which doesn't look very impressive. >>>> Setting the link to point to quantlib.referata.org would be an >>>> improvement. >>>> It would take very little effort to fix think link. >>>> For visitors to the quantlib home-page it would make the user >>>> experience better. >>>> And it would also help encourage the growth of the wiki. >>>> >>> Ok, but I would move the link from the sidebar from the docs page where >>> it belongs (that is, <http://quantlib.org/docs.shtml>.) >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Luigi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> This gubblick contains many nonsklarkish English flutzpahs, but the >>> overall pluggandisp can be glorked from context. >>> -- David Moser >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 13:36 +0200, Dima wrote:
> Is it because you don't want to link it until it has enough content? No, because it's part of the documentation like the other stuff on that page. But we can leave it in the sidebar if you think it will draw people to it. Luigi -- There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion. -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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I'd prefer to have it in the sidebar. Easy to find
Luigi Ballabio schrieb: > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 13:36 +0200, Dima wrote: > >> Is it because you don't want to link it until it has enough content? >> > > No, because it's part of the documentation like the other stuff on that > page. But we can leave it in the sidebar if you think it will draw > people to it. > > Luigi > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 14:25 +0200, Dima wrote:
> I'd prefer to have it in the sidebar. Easy to find Ok, in the sidebar it is. I've changed the links. Luigi -- A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions that make it fail. -- Jerry Ogdin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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I tried to add something. without success. Created a page and saved.
Tried to search for the key word, but it didn't work. What went wrong? Does it need to be accepted by some admin? Also. Do we need to use HTML for that stuff? How shall we present C++ code? Luigi Ballabio schrieb: > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 13:36 +0200, Dima wrote: > >> Is it because you don't want to link it until it has enough content? >> > > No, because it's part of the documentation like the other stuff on that > page. But we can leave it in the sidebar if you think it will draw > people to it. > > Luigi > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Sorry to hear about that.
I think you may have failed a little maths test! If you want to edit without logging in, after you click save, you'll see the line: To edit this page, please solve the simple sum below and enter the answer in the box (more info): = Or some similar captcha. I guess you may not have seen it. Please do try again. No administrator approval is required before changes go live. We have the little captcha to prevent automated editing by a bot. If you don't log in you CAN still make changes, on the other hand you can also use an 'open-ID', i.e. use on of you existing accounts on google, yahoo, aol, etc or indeed you can just create an account on the wiki. If you'd like administrator permissions please ask me. The edit format is 'wiki-text', see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext_examples Note the wiki is a sematic wiki, which means that it can contain structured data, which can be edited with forms and pages can contain results of queries. see: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki Cheers Philip On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Dima <[hidden email]> wrote: I tried to add something. without success. Created a page and saved. Tried to search for the ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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Yeah, I didn't see the calculus exercises. Anyways, I've added an
example page for QL_REQUIRE. One can use the <source lang="cpp"> // put your C++ code in here </source> command to include C++ code. As for the semantic stuff. I don't really see what that is/how one could use it. Can you come up with some example? I'd like to have an account. Please e-mail me what I need to do. P Nelnik schrieb: > Sorry to hear about that. > > I think you may have failed a little maths test! > > If you want to edit without logging in, after you click save, you'll > see the line: > > /To edit this page, please solve the simple sum below and enter the > answer in the box (more info > <http://quantlib.referata.com/wiki/Special:Captcha/help>): / > > /26 - 10 = / > > > Or some similar captcha. I guess you may not have seen it. > > Please do try again. No administrator approval is required before > changes go live. > > We have the little captcha to prevent automated editing by a bot. > > If you don't log in you CAN still make changes, > on the other hand you can also use an 'open-ID', i.e. use on of you > existing accounts on google, yahoo, aol, etc > or indeed you can just create an account on the wiki. > > If you'd like administrator permissions please ask me. > > The edit format is 'wiki-text', see: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext_examples > > Note the wiki is a sematic wiki, which means that it can contain > structured data, which can be edited with forms > and pages can contain results of queries. > see: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki > > Cheers > Philip > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Dima <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > I tried to add something. without success. Created a page and > saved. Tried to search for the > key word, but it didn't work. What went wrong? Does it need to be > accepted by some admin? > Also. Do we need to use HTML for that stuff? How shall we present > C++ code? > > > > Luigi Ballabio schrieb: > > On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 13:36 +0200, Dima wrote: > > > Is it because you don't want to link it until it has > enough content? > > > > No, because it's part of the documentation like the other > stuff on that > page. But we can leave it in the sidebar if you think it will > draw > people to it. > > Luigi > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ QuantLib-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users |
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